关于部分海外社区成员关于CR筹委会的意见

(Feng Zhang) #1

近日从海外团队成员转来的部分海个社区成员关于CR筹委员的相关反馈,内容主要涉及CR筹委会运作,因此发到论坛,方便社区共同讨论。

CR Council Feedback
After speaking with community members who have gone through the suggestion/proposal process and other active community members, it has become evident many are not happy with how the CR Council is working.
We need the CR Council to be more visible to the community; as of now, there is virtually no interaction with them.

We need a proper communication protocol with the Council. If community members don’t have their email addresses, there’s no way to reach out to them or convey a message to them. The Council can cooperate with the Community Manager for this.

The community needs a better understanding what kind of suggestions the Council is willing to fund and why certain decisions are being made.

The Council should give regular updates to the community through its own section in the CR Weekly Report and explain its decisions in detail.

The general perception in the community is that the Council is not willing to spend money and that a lot more could be achieved if they were. Good opportunities are being missed because of funding restrictions.

The process from suggestion to proposal to funding approval is too slow and is often delayed due to unclear communication.

Council members have failed to vote on proposals on several occasions. This is unacceptable.

The Elastos Foundation’s Western team supports these views and wants to express that we need the CR Council to be more active and dedicate more funds to growing the Elastos ecosystem. We are in a crucial phase of project development, and we cannot afford to fall further behind other projects that are rapidly and aggressively expanding their communities and ecosystems.
Potential Solutions:
Replace 1 or more current interim CR Council members

Add 2 more interim CR Council members

Better distribution of interim CR Council members

Consider community members who have proven their loyalty to the project as interim CR Council members

Consider hiring a headhunter to find suitable candidates

(Feng Zhang) #2

针对意见中的一些问题,个人意见如下:
一、本人主要与中国社会区互动比较多一些,因为当时出任筹委会委员时就是代表中国社区,当然这方面也需要进一步互动。

二、委员们在CR中的邮箱是公开的,可以联系上。我们经常收到相关邮件。

三、在参与有关提案讨论时,我就主张无论赞成、反对甚至弃权,都应该把理由和逻辑表述清楚。之前在提案中赞成是无法写意见的,在我的建议下加入了在赞成的时候也能够表达意见,希望以后能够实现在弃权的时候也能写入意见。
针对有关提案被否,社区成员可以去相关提案中查看,我们把主要的逻辑和理由已经写出来了。

四、关于在CR周报中加入提案的处理过程,这个意见不错。结合目前提案表决时的意见,CR周报可以加入一些更详细的细节。我们的目的就是做到更透明。

五、社区对于如何使用这部分资金,一直以来都呼吁谨慎,并且希望筹委员包括以后的委员会对于资金使用必须给出具体的依据,使其发挥出最大的效应。当然我们还需要进一步完善。

六、委员会对于一些提案没有通过,我认为是正常的事情。为什么不可接受呢?如果不可接受,可以把详细的理由列出,如果成立,我们都可以再次讨论并通过。

七、从我的理解来看,筹委员成员一直都在想办法促进亦来云的品牌宣传、生态发展,我们也支持了很多非常好的项目。

八、关于委员会人事问题,我认为可以讨论。因为本来就是筹委员,不过根据社区共治委员会的章程和思路,委员会似乎不是职业经理人的角色,而是类似议员的角色,是不是以猎头公司的形式来寻找,值得商榷。
另外对于委员对社区的忠诚问题,希望进一步指出,是基于什么理由指出这个问题呢?

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(Feng Zhang) #3

CR是一个新生事物,是区块链基础公链项目对于社区治理的一个可贵探索,对其性质和运行规则有很多不同的意见,希望能够借此问题澄清一些问题,寻求形成一些共识。

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(Kenneth Kao) #4

This is under quite a bit discussion in many communities, so I appreciate that this is being brought up. I will be sharing my own thoughts soon, but generally I agree that some clear solutions and steps do need to occur.

(Jochem H.) #5

From my perspective, I have experienced both the gains and the pains of working with the CR, but I see it as a learning process. Replacing council members at this moment is not a fair solution. I respect that the council takes a conservative approach, After all there is a lot of pressure on their shoulders and I am not even sure if it is a paid job.

The biggest challenge they face has to do with trust. How do you trust the people who place a suggestion? How do you do your due diligence? After all, you invest community money in people, not just in ideas.

With the Regions (Clarence), Orchard (Europe) and the Dev. Ex. Team (global) it will be increasingly easier to assess suggestions. In fact, any suggestion by these parties should be seen as credible since they are the result of work with these trusted parties.

I would therefore vow for a process where local suggestions go through one of these trusted parties first. That solves the communication problem and serves as a filter. That way it will also be easier to assess the progress.

I am in favor of adding CR council members, and obviously I support spending money on promising projects as long as the focus is on building Dapps, the ecosystem and growing awareness!

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(Feng Zhang) #6

您的思考很理性,我再谈点个人看法,
一、关于提案的审议
任何人的提案被通过还是被否定,我个人觉得其依据不应该是抽象的信任,而是基于CR的职责、提案本身的内容,以及提案团队执行提案的信心和能力。

二、关于CR的职责
这个问题值得讨论,目前似乎未取得一致。我个人认为,CR是一个社区型架构,当一个人或组织为CR提供服务时主要是平等合作关系,主要基于社区成员工作成果,CR给予特定的激励;而基金会即EF则是一个团队型架构,当一个人为基金会工作时可能更多的是雇佣关系,是基于其发展目标设定相应岗位,主要根据岗位来给予报酬(当然外部机构与基金会的平等合作是另当别论,已经类似CR 了)。

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(Zhanghehe) #7

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(Zhanghehe) #8

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